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| Bike I ride: | Chromag Sakura + RS Revelations |
| Favorite Trails: | Ashton Court, Penmachno, Freight Train, Danimal |
| Products Recommended: | none - View Products |
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Ged on, Box! Cheers w-e-w, appreciate what you're saying. It just seems to me that Shimano make genuine technological advances such as hyperglide, hollowtech, SPD, dual shift, STI, etc. (ok, forget biopace!). Understand what you're saying though - Shimano had become a bit stangent in a market they dominated before SRAM came along - the healthy competition is good for the consumer.
In my personal experience SRAM stuff falls apart very quickly, but Shimano just keeps on trucking. SRAM does come in pretty colours though!
Agreed, this is a slightly pointless debate - although strangely enough I'd rather have a SRAM chain than a Shimano?!
Shake hands and agree to disagree ;+) Shimano innovate, SRAM follow....with slicker marketing hype and rider sponsorship. @Danny: come to a UK trail centre - it'll make you laugh!!! ;+) I've had a few Cove's and they are solid bikes. In my experience, ghetto tubeless doesn't work because there isn't the correct tyre bead/ rim interlock that you get with the patented UST system. Yes, ghetto works when the bike is in a straight line, but land the bike sideways or push hard in a corner and non-UST tyres tend to roll off the rim. Great article - love to see some tech thought going into things rather than just emotive 'feelings'.
Can someone tell me why Mavic only make UST rims in either super skinny (X819) or super fat (X823)?
From experience, the Mavic UST system is the best (Stans just didn't work for me). However, the 819 is too narrow for anything other than XC duties and I concur with the problems identified above. I've used the 823s for DH racing and found them to be brilliant - however just too heavy for general trail use.
If Mavic are supposed to be at the vanguard of tubeless rims (UST), then why don't they make an 821 aftermarket rim?!
Bah! Where can I get one? That bike sound fast! Yeah, if you want to ride flat trails all the time! ;+) I couldn't add enough +props to your comment willsoffe! The Giant Overdrive 2 is a classic example of marketing hype!
That said, incremental changes in standards are good (occasionally). I'd hate to still be riding a 1" steerer fork with v-brakes and square taper cranks now! therabbitking29 - I agree with your comment that rider skill and a bike that keeps on trucking are very important to a lot of people. However, there is a big proportion of people out there who get joy from having the latest and greatest kit (the one's with disposable income you mention).
I'm not one of these people (I have a steel hardtail with great functioning components dating back to 2005 on it). However I have a friend who buys a new XTR groupset every year! Why? Because its the latest and he can!
The industry needs people to spend the big bucks, and to be honest if it makes the consumer happy, then live and let live I say. Radarr - that's my point: Santa Cruz say they are an acronym-averse company yet they use them (VPP, APP) - its a bit hypocritical. APP is daft because its basically a single pivot swingarm with a a linkage driven shock - does that need an acronym? Is it really a totally new suspension system that warrants the fanfair?
Please don't get me wrong, I hate negative comments, and I'm not on a downer with SC bikes, it just seemed like a good example of jargon gone too far in my opinion.
The above statement from SC (which I had read before) appears a bit contridictory. However, I'm sure many consumers will lap it up!
I think its quite marketing savvy of SC to try to play it cool, yet at the same time actually use jargon (APP is also a very 'now' term as well - iphone...). About Us
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